Chinese Elm and soil
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So I have a Chinese elm and I tried using bonsai soil. It does not seem to be working as the water goes right through and out and it has yellow leaves from "under watering" So, what kind of soil can I use for the plant?
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I use bonsai soil for my chinese elms. Yes, the water pours straight throe. That is what we mean with free draining. However, if you water correct, thuroghly all over the surface with a fine strainer until there is a steady stream of water pouring out the drainage holes, there will a lot of water trapped in the soil.
If I remember correctly you are growing your trees indoors? Chinese elms cannot be grown indoors and correct watering is impossible indoors.
If I remember correctly you are growing your trees indoors? Chinese elms cannot be grown indoors and correct watering is impossible indoors.
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Also, are your tree in developement still?
Because if it does, maybe the Bonsai soil isn't the best choice at the moment, Bonsai soil is for Bonsai, it keeps the tree growth more under control, because when you have a tree in development you want it to grow a lot, and on a finished bonsai you don't want it to grow much, you want to keep it in shape, small internodes and small leaves...
Because if it does, maybe the Bonsai soil isn't the best choice at the moment, Bonsai soil is for Bonsai, it keeps the tree growth more under control, because when you have a tree in development you want it to grow a lot, and on a finished bonsai you don't want it to grow much, you want to keep it in shape, small internodes and small leaves...
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I want maximum growth no matter stage of development and keep them under control with pruning.
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I want maximum growth no matter stage of development and keep them under control with pruning.
Well, Cation Exchange Capacity is a thing, Bonsai substrates have lower CEC levels, therefore holds less nutrients and water then richer substrates used to develop materials and thickening...
There's also more into that, like having thinner roots on smaller pots.
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Also, granulometry is a factor Carol, when using small pots, you should use a substrate with smaller grains.
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I do use smaller size. I also just added some soil with worm castings to it. I did not take it out of the pot I just added it to it with the chopstick and it is looking good and green now.
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I want maximum growth no matter stage of development and keep them under control with pruning.
Well, Cation Exchange Capacity is a thing, Bonsai substrates have lower CEC levels, therefore holds less nutrients and water then richer substrates used to develop materials and thickening...
There's also more into that, like having thinner roots on smaller pots.
The amount of nutrients a substrate holds is just one factor. The amount of fertilizer added is another one. If correctly fertilized our small trees in pots have relatively to the size more nutritions awailable in a year than its wild counterparts.
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